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	<title>Comments on: Postcards From Anywhere But Vermont, Apparently</title>
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 		<title>Comment on Postcards From Anywhere But Vermont, Apparently by: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://homeschool.gleeson.us/2005/02/02/postcards_from_anywhere_but_vermont_appa#comment-78</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Mar 2005 22:03:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Jenny, rejoice!  Your prayers have been answered before you said them. &lt;br /&gt;
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Actually, you're just mistaken in your rush to judgement you made about my harboring hatred toward homosexuals.  Having said that however, when it comes to the gay activists forcing the gay agenda on my kids in children's programming or in the schools, you've got combat.&lt;br /&gt;
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I DO:&lt;br /&gt;
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1. Subscribe to that portion of a religious tradition or other moral belief system that condemns homosexual &lt;i&gt;sex acts&lt;/i&gt; as immoral.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
2. Exercise no or little effort to suppress one's natural sense of revulsion, if present, to homosexual sex acts (e.g., rectal intercourse, same sex kissing, etc.).&lt;br /&gt;
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I do NOT: &lt;br /&gt;
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3. Support, participate in or take pleasure from acts of violence, hatred, or infliction of emotional damage to homosexual persons.&lt;br /&gt;
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You decided correctly that  changing my beliefs and attitudes on #1 and #2 are a waste of energy.&lt;br /&gt;
My children will not hate, but will probably share my religious beliefs as well as a hearty sense of humor and strong sense of inclusion. I doubt they'll be gay, but they'll always be loved unconditionally.  We'll take prayers too!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
You've tried and failed to stick me with charges of racism and hatred, but if you wish to label me a &quot;homophobe&quot;, go ahead, but given my abridged list of characteristics, I would insist on &quot;Homophobe, Third Class&quot;. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Jenny, rejoice!  Your prayers have been answered before you said them. </p>
	<p>Actually, you&#8217;re just mistaken in your rush to judgement you made about my harboring hatred toward homosexuals.  Having said that however, when it comes to the gay activists forcing the gay agenda on my kids in children&#8217;s programming or in the schools, you&#8217;ve got combat.</p>
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I DO:</p>
	<p>1. Subscribe to that portion of a religious tradition or other moral belief system that condemns homosexual <i>sex acts</i> as immoral.</p>
	<p>2. Exercise no or little effort to suppress one&#8217;s natural sense of revulsion, if present, to homosexual sex acts (e.g., rectal intercourse, same sex kissing, etc.).</p>
	<p>I do NOT: </p>
	<p>3. Support, participate in or take pleasure from acts of violence, hatred, or infliction of emotional damage to homosexual persons.</p>
	<p>You decided correctly that  changing my beliefs and attitudes on #1 and #2 are a waste of energy.<br />
My children will not hate, but will probably share my religious beliefs as well as a hearty sense of humor and strong sense of inclusion. I doubt they&#8217;ll be gay, but they&#8217;ll always be loved unconditionally.  We&#8217;ll take prayers too!</p>
	<p>You&#8217;ve tried and failed to stick me with charges of racism and hatred, but if you wish to label me a &#8220;homophobe&#8221;, go ahead, but given my abridged list of characteristics, I would insist on &#8220;Homophobe, Third Class&#8221;.
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 		<title>Comment on Postcards From Anywhere But Vermont, Apparently by: anotherjenny</title>
		<link>http://homeschool.gleeson.us/2005/02/02/postcards_from_anywhere_but_vermont_appa#comment-76</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Mar 2005 19:15:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://homeschool.gleeson.us/2005/02/02/postcards_from_anywhere_but_vermont_appa#comment-76</guid>
					<description>Kevin, I am sorry that your children will grow up with so much hate in their lives. Obviously, talking about explicit sexual acts with a young child is wrong and will confuse that child, no matter what that explicit sexual act is. &lt;br /&gt;
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I will pray that you realize that being gay is not about sex anymore than being straight is about sex. It is about who you love, who you are compatible with. I hope none of your children are gay because you will have hurt them their entire childhood by preaching hate and lies. I hope they dare to question the religious beliefs you teach them. &lt;br /&gt;
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I won't debate your opinion with you, because it isn't worth one second of my energy, but I will pray for your children because hate hurts from the inside out. &lt;br /&gt;
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God bless. &lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Kevin, I am sorry that your children will grow up with so much hate in their lives. Obviously, talking about explicit sexual acts with a young child is wrong and will confuse that child, no matter what that explicit sexual act is. </p>
	<p>I will pray that you realize that being gay is not about sex anymore than being straight is about sex. It is about who you love, who you are compatible with. I hope none of your children are gay because you will have hurt them their entire childhood by preaching hate and lies. I hope they dare to question the religious beliefs you teach them. </p>
	<p>I won&#8217;t debate your opinion with you, because it isn&#8217;t worth one second of my energy, but I will pray for your children because hate hurts from the inside out. </p>
	<p>God bless. </p>
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 		<title>Comment on Postcards From Anywhere But Vermont, Apparently by: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://homeschool.gleeson.us/2005/02/02/postcards_from_anywhere_but_vermont_appa#comment-75</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Mar 2005 04:55:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://homeschool.gleeson.us/2005/02/02/postcards_from_anywhere_but_vermont_appa#comment-75</guid>
					<description>Dear anotherjenny,&lt;br /&gt;
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Let's just stick to the two moms or two dads please, since that's all that's portrayed in this show, and that's the only moral abberation you've listed in your alternative family structures.  That and the donor sperm, which is for another forum.  My boys are black and white, adopted and not, and brothers all, which is nothing like being raised gay or by gays.&lt;br /&gt;
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You have said &quot;yes, this discussion [about homosexually parented families] should be had at a young age.&quot;  No. Not with my kids. In my children's world, homosexuality does not exist, because I'm their responsible parent exercising my duty to keep things out that they're not ready to be aware of yet.  For that same reason, I'm holding back a lot of &lt;b&gt;good&lt;/b&gt; things as well, like the full Gospel message of Jesus Christ, the gift of the seven sacraments, right to life issues, and the fine job our troops are doing in Iraq.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The role of PBS Kids and other children's programming has been to present entertainment whose contained values should be completely trustworthy by worry free parents:  Share. Tell the truth.  Go the library. Do your homework. Be nice to your sister.  Animals have families too.  Don't litter.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
By blindsiding many sensible families with the lesbian family episode of &lt;i&gt;Postcards from Buster&lt;/i&gt;, PBS Kids betrayed this trust. To my children (ages 3, 2 and baby), homosexuality still is not yet real (or rather, is not yet &lt;br /&gt;
part of their reality), and Jenny, you wouldn't like the family discussion this little consciousness foisting production would have unfolded.&lt;br /&gt;
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Q: Daddy, is it OK if a family has 2 mommies or daddies instead of 1 mommy and 1 daddy?&lt;br /&gt;
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My Options:&lt;ol&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;b&gt;Acceptance:&lt;/b&gt; You see, Beaver, it's OK for &lt;i&gt;any&lt;/i&gt; two people to raise children as long as they're in love.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;i&gt;The dilemma: You'd have to pry these words from my cold, dead lips.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;b&gt;Relativism:&lt;/b&gt; You see, Beaver, it's OK for &lt;i&gt;those&lt;/i&gt; two men to raise children as long as they're in love, but it's &lt;i&gt;not&lt;/i&gt; OK for &lt;i&gt;you&lt;/i&gt; to grow up and be like them.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;b&gt;Early Childhood Facts of Life:&lt;/b&gt;You see, Beaver, some men go around placing their thing that makes weewee into another man's thing that makes poopoo, and that's bad.  Those kids gotta grow up with men who do that, and &lt;b&gt;like&lt;/b&gt; it, as daddies.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;b&gt;Blissful ignorance:&lt;/b&gt;Huh, yeah, whatever.  Forget all that!  &lt;br /&gt;
Let's watch nothing but DVDs from now on.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Dear anotherjenny,</p>
	<p>Let&#8217;s just stick to the two moms or two dads please, since that&#8217;s all that&#8217;s portrayed in this show, and that&#8217;s the only moral abberation you&#8217;ve listed in your alternative family structures.  That and the donor sperm, which is for another forum.  My boys are black and white, adopted and not, and brothers all, which is nothing like being raised gay or by gays.</p>
	<p>You have said &#8220;yes, this discussion [about homosexually parented families] should be had at a young age.&#8221;  No. Not with my kids. In my children&#8217;s world, homosexuality does not exist, because I&#8217;m their responsible parent exercising my duty to keep things out that they&#8217;re not ready to be aware of yet.  For that same reason, I&#8217;m holding back a lot of <b>good</b> things as well, like the full Gospel message of Jesus Christ, the gift of the seven sacraments, right to life issues, and the fine job our troops are doing in Iraq.</p>
	<p>The role of PBS Kids and other children&#8217;s programming has been to present entertainment whose contained values should be completely trustworthy by worry free parents:  Share. Tell the truth.  Go the library. Do your homework. Be nice to your sister.  Animals have families too.  Don&#8217;t litter.</p>
	<p>By blindsiding many sensible families with the lesbian family episode of <i>Postcards from Buster</i>, PBS Kids betrayed this trust. To my children (ages 3, 2 and baby), homosexuality still is not yet real (or rather, is not yet <br />
part of their reality), and Jenny, you wouldn&#8217;t like the family discussion this little consciousness foisting production would have unfolded.</p>
	<p>Q: Daddy, is it OK if a family has 2 mommies or daddies instead of 1 mommy and 1 daddy?</p>
	<p>
My Options:
<ol>
<li><b>Acceptance:</b> You see, Beaver, it&#8217;s OK for <i>any</i> two people to raise children as long as they&#8217;re in love.<br />
<i>The dilemma: You&#8217;d have to pry these words from my cold, dead lips.</i></li>
	<li><b>Relativism:</b> You see, Beaver, it&#8217;s OK for <i>those</i> two men to raise children as long as they&#8217;re in love, but it&#8217;s <i>not</i> OK for <i>you</i> to grow up and be like them.</li>
	<li><b>Early Childhood Facts of Life:</b>You see, Beaver, some men go around placing their thing that makes weewee into another man&#8217;s thing that makes poopoo, and that&#8217;s bad.  Those kids gotta grow up with men who do that, and <b>like</b> it, as daddies.</li>
	<li><b>Blissful ignorance:</b>Huh, yeah, whatever.  Forget all that!  <br />
Let&#8217;s watch nothing but DVDs from now on.</li>
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 		<title>Comment on Postcards From Anywhere But Vermont, Apparently by: Gleeson</title>
		<link>http://homeschool.gleeson.us/2005/02/02/postcards_from_anywhere_but_vermont_appa#comment-68</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Mar 2005 21:27:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://homeschool.gleeson.us/2005/02/02/postcards_from_anywhere_but_vermont_appa#comment-68</guid>
					<description>Yeah, Kevin! Obviously, you must be opposed to interracial families, since you criticized a cartoon that had nothing to do with interracial families!&lt;br /&gt;
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So, when &lt;i&gt;were&lt;/i&gt; you planning on exposing your sons to interracial families, huh? Huh?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Yeah, Kevin! Obviously, you must be opposed to interracial families, since you criticized a cartoon that had nothing to do with interracial families!</p>
	<p>So, when <i>were</i> you planning on exposing your sons to interracial families, huh? Huh?
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 		<title>Comment on Postcards From Anywhere But Vermont, Apparently by: anotherjenny</title>
		<link>http://homeschool.gleeson.us/2005/02/02/postcards_from_anywhere_but_vermont_appa#comment-67</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Mar 2005 20:44:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://homeschool.gleeson.us/2005/02/02/postcards_from_anywhere_but_vermont_appa#comment-67</guid>
					<description>The show should ignore these things to make them less real? They are real. &lt;br /&gt;
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Reality: lesbians and gay men have children. Whether the kids came from a former heterosexual relationship or were adopted or conceived through donor sperm - they have two mommies or two daddies. &lt;br /&gt;
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These families exist. They are real families. &lt;br /&gt;
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Yes - this discussion should be had at a young age, you can say whatever you want about the lesbians in the show, but you should talk about it so that when YOUR kids meet kids in real life who have two moms or two dads or interracial parents or who are raised by their auntie or in a foster home or are adopted internationally and look physically different from their mom and dad then YOUR kids will know what is going on and know your opinion on the subject. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>The show should ignore these things to make them less real? They are real. </p>
	<p>Reality: lesbians and gay men have children. Whether the kids came from a former heterosexual relationship or were adopted or conceived through donor sperm - they have two mommies or two daddies. </p>
	<p>These families exist. They are real families. </p>
	<p>Yes - this discussion should be had at a young age, you can say whatever you want about the lesbians in the show, but you should talk about it so that when YOUR kids meet kids in real life who have two moms or two dads or interracial parents or who are raised by their auntie or in a foster home or are adopted internationally and look physically different from their mom and dad then YOUR kids will know what is going on and know your opinion on the subject.
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 		<title>Comment on Postcards From Anywhere But Vermont, Apparently by: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://homeschool.gleeson.us/2005/02/02/postcards_from_anywhere_but_vermont_appa#comment-66</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Feb 2005 05:08:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://homeschool.gleeson.us/2005/02/02/postcards_from_anywhere_but_vermont_appa#comment-66</guid>
					<description>I've now seen the show, and can knowledgably comment thus:&lt;br /&gt;
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The show features a lesbian couple with 3 kids, two of whom are sent on errands to buy maple syrup and cheese.  On their errands, they show people making the syrup and cheese.&lt;br /&gt;
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The parents' lesbianism isn't conveniently ignored, but rather spotlighted.  The camera pans the family photos while Buster comments on how they sure have a lot of mommies.  The girl corrects him, that she has a mommy and the other one is her &quot;partner&quot;.  Savvy viewers will understand this to mean her &quot;[live-in lesbian sex] partner&quot;, though our kids viewed cluelessly (not on my watch, my wife's).  The show culminates in a social event at a bonfire hosted by another lesbian headed &quot;two mommy&quot; household with kids.&lt;br /&gt;
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To quote a commenter above, I would much rather that this kids' show ignored these things to make them less real.  The show's emphasis on children raised in two gay families, ending with a joint family photo at the bonfire with 4 moms and no dads are meant to provoke questions and discussion of homosexual family units, forcing the issue at an earlier age that most of us normals don't want discussed until the kids reach a greater level of maturity.&lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I&#8217;ve now seen the show, and can knowledgably comment thus:</p>
	<p>The show features a lesbian couple with 3 kids, two of whom are sent on errands to buy maple syrup and cheese.  On their errands, they show people making the syrup and cheese.</p>
	<p>The parents&#8217; lesbianism isn&#8217;t conveniently ignored, but rather spotlighted.  The camera pans the family photos while Buster comments on how they sure have a lot of mommies.  The girl corrects him, that she has a mommy and the other one is her &#8220;partner&#8221;.  Savvy viewers will understand this to mean her &#8220;[live-in lesbian sex] partner&#8221;, though our kids viewed cluelessly (not on my watch, my wife&#8217;s).  The show culminates in a social event at a bonfire hosted by another lesbian headed &#8220;two mommy&#8221; household with kids.</p>
	<p>To quote a commenter above, I would much rather that this kids&#8217; show ignored these things to make them less real.  The show&#8217;s emphasis on children raised in two gay families, ending with a joint family photo at the bonfire with 4 moms and no dads are meant to provoke questions and discussion of homosexual family units, forcing the issue at an earlier age that most of us normals don&#8217;t want discussed until the kids reach a greater level of maturity.
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 		<title>Comment on Postcards From Anywhere But Vermont, Apparently by: feebee</title>
		<link>http://homeschool.gleeson.us/2005/02/02/postcards_from_anywhere_but_vermont_appa#comment-65</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Feb 2005 20:34:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Well said Tab. I especially like 2.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Well said Tab. I especially like 2.
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 		<title>Comment on Postcards From Anywhere But Vermont, Apparently by: Tabitha</title>
		<link>http://homeschool.gleeson.us/2005/02/02/postcards_from_anywhere_but_vermont_appa#comment-64</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Feb 2005 19:47:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>it doesnt sound like they discussed lesbianism on the show? i mean, they simply introduced her two mommies. it could just as easily have been mom and dad or dad and dad or single mom or single dad or young mom, or aging mom, or adoptive dad etc etc etc...  &lt;br /&gt;
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i saw an episode of this where they visit a trailer park and discuss life there. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
i think its a great show,exploring a lot of fact-of-lifestyles in an environment where you can be there and help your child integrate it all. &lt;br /&gt;
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the way i see it, &lt;br /&gt;
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1) there are people all over doing things i disagree with&lt;br /&gt;
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2) i would be a fool to think ignoring these things will make them less real&lt;br /&gt;
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3) children are born unpredjudiced&lt;br /&gt;
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4) i want to keep it that way if at all possible&lt;br /&gt;
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ykwim?&lt;br /&gt;
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tabitha</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>it doesnt sound like they discussed lesbianism on the show? i mean, they simply introduced her two mommies. it could just as easily have been mom and dad or dad and dad or single mom or single dad or young mom, or aging mom, or adoptive dad etc etc etc&#8230;  </p>
	<p>i saw an episode of this where they visit a trailer park and discuss life there. </p>
	<p>i think its a great show,exploring a lot of fact-of-lifestyles in an environment where you can be there and help your child integrate it all. </p>
	<p>the way i see it, </p>
	<p>1) there are people all over doing things i disagree with</p>
	<p>2) i would be a fool to think ignoring these things will make them less real</p>
	<p>3) children are born unpredjudiced</p>
	<p>4) i want to keep it that way if at all possible</p>
	<p>ykwim?</p>
	<p>tabitha
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 		<title>Comment on Postcards From Anywhere But Vermont, Apparently by: feebee</title>
		<link>http://homeschool.gleeson.us/2005/02/02/postcards_from_anywhere_but_vermont_appa#comment-63</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Feb 2005 03:18:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://homeschool.gleeson.us/2005/02/02/postcards_from_anywhere_but_vermont_appa#comment-63</guid>
					<description>Oh and Kev, Sean's not testing for nuffin, he's just listening to me ramble.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Oh and Kev, Sean&#8217;s not testing for nuffin, he&#8217;s just listening to me ramble.
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		<link>http://homeschool.gleeson.us/2005/02/02/postcards_from_anywhere_but_vermont_appa#comment-62</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Feb 2005 03:17:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://homeschool.gleeson.us/2005/02/02/postcards_from_anywhere_but_vermont_appa#comment-62</guid>
					<description>Zach, my BIL Kevin.&lt;br /&gt;
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Kevin, my friend Zach.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Zach, my BIL Kevin.</p>
	<p>Kevin, my friend Zach.
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